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individuals that chose her as a speaker, there is clear evidence of her association with the Shalem Institute for Spiritual Formation\u00a0in Washington, DC. In fact, she sought out a \u201cspiritual director\u201d to teach her about Contemplative Prayer. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';\">A \u201cspiritual director\u201d is as an eastern guru that manages the spirituality of individuals.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><span style=\"color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;\">The truth is that Barton did not receive her \u201cministry\u201d from the Holy Spirit, but from people akin to shamans and gurus.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>The Shalem Institute has a much different perspective of Contemplative Prayer than the one you shared with me.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\">Further, <\/span><\/span>Spiritual Formation is an unscriptural movement that is providing a source and means by which contemplative prayer is invading Christianity.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>If we are going to borrow all these terms and practices from the diabolical realm, and attempt to use them as Christian replicas, then what happens to distinctly Christian terms and practices that are far better, left alone?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;\">You wrote that \u201c<span style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\">Contemplative prayer is the current term for what is a very Biblical practice\u2014getting along with God.\u201d<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span>Certainly, all of us that pray will wait, and even meditate on the Lord.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>We may also be quiet before Him.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>However, this has never been called Contemplative Prayer in the decades that I have been a Christian.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><span style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\">Actually, it is an old term that originated in eastern religions.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>It is associated with paganism, false religions, and Roman Catholic mystics.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>The practice is presently an essential part of the Emergent Church and New Age Movements.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>In fact, it has been said by leaders of those movements that Contemplative Prayer will be the means by which all religions will be united.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>However, why use a cult term to describe the act of prayer or spending time alone with God?<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>It would be just as improper to use the term \u201cs\u00e9ance\u201d to describe a group of Christians holding hands and calling on the Lord.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>However, this is not a case of Satan stealing a Christian practice, but quite the opposite.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>The overwhelming evidence points to Ruth Haley Barton borrowing a practice from the diabolical realm and is presenting it as a Christian practice.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\">Therefore, when someone who has trained at the Shalem Institute, who was the<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black;\"> associate director of spiritual formation at the notorious Willow Creek Community Church, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\">decides to use the term Contemplative Prayer for her topic at the General Council, it raise serious concerns.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>For one thing, the method of Contemplative Prayer that Ruth Barton uses is exactly as the method used by Roman Catholic mystics, pagans, and New Age adherents.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>She takes on the role of a \u201cspiritual director\u201d when she teaches, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black;\">&#8220;Ask for a simple prayer to express your willingness to meet God in the silence &#8212; a simple statement &#8212; such as &#8220;Here I am.&#8221; &#8212; Help yourself return to your original intent by repeating the prayer that you have chosen.&#8221; <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>On her web site she states that her goal is to help pastors, \u201c<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';\">to experience rhythms of solitude, prayer and community, and to deepen your understanding of leadership that flows from your transforming self.\u201d<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>This is incredibly similar to New Age rhetoric.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Thus, her practices appear to be an attempt to \u201cChristianize\u201d the diabolical.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\">My wife and I spend a great deal of time in prayer (In fact, I wrote your name in my prayer journal some time ago and pray for you daily).<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>We have never been prompted by the Holy Spirit to employ such methods. <span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>I\u2019ve never asked God for a simple prayer.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>That would be like me asking my wife to give me a love note that I could chant to her as if it were from my heart.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>After over 35 years of praying, I would have to go backward a very long distance, into the transcendental meditative, mystical realm of evil that God delivered me from, to accept Barton\u2019s methods.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Barton wrote, \u201c<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';\">A few years ago, I began to recognize an inner chaos in my soul . . . No matter how much I prayed, read the Bible, and listened to good teaching, I could not calm the internal roar created by questions with no answers.&#8221;<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><span style=\"color: black; mso-themecolor: text1; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0<\/span>My experience with prayer, reading the Bible, listening to good teaching, was quite the opposite.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>I was filled with joy and peace, questions were answered, and faith was increased.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Barton\u2019s sought out a diabolical individual and drank from the polluted fountain of the <\/span><span style=\"color: black; mso-themecolor: text1;\">Shalem Institute.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Now she endeavors to indoctrinate seasoned ministers of the AoG.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\">With all due respect, you are either incredibly naive or one of those beautiful people that finds it impossible to see the bad in anyone.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>In any case, and in my opinion, leadership in this great and final apostasy demands a \u201cPaul\u201d rather than a \u201cBarnabas\u201d.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>However, I accept your challenge to read Ruth Haley Barton\u2019s book (of which I have only read excerpts) if you will promise to read Roger Oakland\u2019s book, \u201cFaith Undone\u201d or Ray Yungen\u2019s book, \u201cA Time of Departing\u201d.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\">Finally, comparing Rick Warren to Billy Graham is to me a bizarre comparison given what I know about the two.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>However, out of respect for a family in mourning, I will not make further comments.<span style=\"mso-spacerun: yes;\">\u00a0 <\/span>Thank you again for your time and willingness to be accessible in this matter.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\">In Christ,<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; color: black; mso-themecolor: text1; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;\">C. H. Fisher<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Verdana','sans-serif';\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dear Brother Wood, Thank you for your forthright and prompt reply.\u00a0 These questions were compiled by listening to or reading the concerns of many individuals regarding Ruth Haley Barton.\u00a0 Although you are confident in the individuals that chose her as a speaker, there is clear evidence of her association with the Shalem Institute for Spiritual [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-95","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","post-preview"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paIm2N-1x","jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.truthkeepers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/95"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.truthkeepers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.truthkeepers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.truthkeepers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.truthkeepers.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=95"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.truthkeepers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/95\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":96,"href":"https:\/\/www.truthkeepers.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/95\/revisions\/96"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.truthkeepers.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=95"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.truthkeepers.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=95"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.truthkeepers.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=95"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}