Chapter Nine

"The Great Cloud of Witnesses"

 

            In this chapter, we are going to look at the witness of several New Testament writers concerning the Second Coming of Christ. It is a fact that there will be a great cloud of witnesses one day that will prove, beyond the shadow of doubt, that PTR is a false doctrine. They will be the courageous believers who endured the tribulation, faced the Antichrist, and never denied their testimony. Some of the people whom we will be considering in this chapter will be in that group.

 

The Witness of Matthew Twenty-four:

"Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, 'Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?'" (Matt. 24:3 NKJV)  

In Matthew twenty-four, there is a series of verses in which Jesus chronologically outlines the events in Revelation. His teaching here is in response to the disciples' asking Him three questions:

1. "When will these things be?"

2. "What will be the sign of Your coming?"

3. "What will be the sign of the end of the world?"  

            Jesus responds by giving a brief chronological order of events that are perfectly in harmony with Revelation. Here is His response in the order and with the corresponding Scriptures in Revelation. Notice that He does not mention a pretribulation rapture anywhere in His teaching.  He begins by warning them about deception. Deceit, deception, and other forms of the words are mentioned often in the Scriptures regarding the end times. The strong delusion that God sends is because people reject the love for the truth and develop a love for deceit instead.

"And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, {12} that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (2 Thess. 2:11-12 NKJV)  

            Professing Christians should be more concerned about avoiding satanic deception and the subsequent strong delusion more than missing a mythical secret rapture. Although I do not intend to elaborate in detail, the point needs to be made that the love for deceit begins in a seemingly harmless way. Our society today has developed an addiction to the fictional imagery that flows into each home via the television. We live in a world that is wildly obsessed with fantasy. Some people even refer to fictional characters in movies and television dramas as if they truly exist.

            I don’t say that there isn’t a place for fiction and fantasy, but when it leads people into a delusion and to rebel against God’s Word, it should be opposed and exposed.  For this reason I stand totally opposed to the Left Behind book series written by Dr. Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins because in my opinion it alters scriptural truth to the degree that people can be deceived.  I might mention here that I wrote an eschatological fiction novel that I hope people will read who have read some of the books the Left Behind series and are left with questions and other concerns.  The novel is scheduled for publication soon and I will be sending out advance notices to everyone on our mailing list.

            I spent a great deal of time debating whether or not to write the novel and discussed it with my friends and family.  I came to the conclusion that even though Posttribulationism does not need fiction to support it, it may be necessary in this situation to fight fire with fire.  Apparently there are people who believe the pretrib fiction books without consulting the Scriptures.  I hope and pray that my novel will inspire them to study the Word of God for themselves concerning this and all other matters.

            Deception is addictive, because it shields us from reality. Most purveyors of deception today employ the use of sensationalism, mystery, intrigue, and etcetera to make it extremely appealing.  For this reason it is sometimes expedient to present fiction that oppose deception such as C. S Lewis did with his popular children’s books, The Chronicles of Narnia.   If a child is interested in fantasy it would be much more beneficial to give them a The Chronicles of Narnia than the Harry Potter series.

            When a person becomes addicted to deadly deception, his or her love of truth gradually dies. Deception often feels good to the natural mind, but the end result is always costly.

"Bread gained by deceit is sweet to a man, but afterward his mouth will be filled with gravel." (Prov. 20:17 NKJV)  

            To be under a delusion is to hold onto a belief in the presence of evidence that would normally be sufficient to destroy that belief. I believe that pretribulation rapture adherents are deceived, but I also believe that some of them are actually under a delusion because they refuse to let go of the doctrine in spite of the abundant evidence that destroys and exposes the false doctrine.  

            The following table is but another presentation of evidence that exposes the heresy that many call the pretribulation rapture.  After repeatedly warning about deception, Jesus begins to give a chronology of events. I will list the events and the Scripture references in Matthew and Revelation here. The chart will help you to get a visual understanding of how incredibly accurate Jesus' enumeration of the Revelation events really is.

 

 

The Israel Only Factor

            Matthew twenty-four is the most concise and complete teaching that Jesus gave on eschatology. I have already said that there is no mention of a pretribulation rapture in Matthew twenty-four and on that point most dispensationalists would agree with me. But the way that they get around the lack of a pretribulation rapture being mentioned in Matthew twenty-four is to declare that those Scriptures are meant for Israel only. The premise that God has two separate methods of dealing with Israel and His Church by initiating two paths of salvation is at the heart of the dispensationalist's error. They ignore the Scriptures in Romans eleven that declare Israel to be the olive tree and Gentiles wild olive branches that have been grafted in. They also ignore the fact that we have all been made one by the work of the cross. The Israel-only approach to Matthew is unscriptural for the following reasons.  

1. Jesus is teaching in direct response to questions asked by His disciples that were Christians.

"Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives , the disciples came to Him privately, saying, 'Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?'" (Matt. 24:3 NKJV)

2. The disciples became the foundation stones of His Church.

"Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, {20} having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone, {21} in whom the whole building, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, {22} in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit." (Eph. 2:19-22 NKJV)

3. They were the first to be born again, blood-washed, and Spirit-filled.  They were also believers in His Lordship and resurrection and therefore met all the criteria to be called saved. As such, they were His future Church, which is His Body. There is no difference between these men whom Jesus taught in Matthew twenty- four and anyone else who is a Christian.  Their nationality is of no concern when it comes to salvation.

"For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body; whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free; and have all been made to drink into one Spirit." (1 Cor. 12:13 NKJV)  

"Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh; who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands; {12} that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. {13} But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. {14} For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, {15} having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, {16} and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity." (Eph. 2:11-16 NKJV)  

"For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. {27} For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. {28} There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. {29} And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." (Gal. 3:26-29 NKJV)

4. Thus, the Israelites who are saved are not any different than Gentiles who are saved. They are not saved another way, nor do they become a part of us, but we become a part of them.

"For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? {16} For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. {17} And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, {18} do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you. {19} You will say then, "Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in." {20} Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. {21} For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. {22} Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. {23} And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. {24} For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? {25} For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in." ( Rom. 11:15-25 NKJV)  

            By ignoring these and other Scriptures, dispensationalists have caused a whole new method of interpreting the Bible to ensue, which they repeatedly call literal interpretation. We have completely proven, and will continue to prove, that this is a misnomer that Dispensationalism is very far from the truth and literal interpretation of the Scriptures. When their erroneous interpretations are compared with the Scriptures in context, the inconsistencies of the dispensationalist claims are evident.  The only conclusion from the above Scriptures is that Jesus was teaching His Church, not the nation of Israel , when He taught eschatology in Matthew twenty-four. To dispute this fact is to dispute the very Word of God.   Therefore, it should be the inevitable conclusion of every serious Bible student that Jesus was teaching the future Church.  I concede that He was teaching Jews, for who else would He be teaching, Gentiles? He was a Jewish Rabbi with twelve Jewish disciples. There is no record of Gentiles being in the group that He was teaching. Does anyone know if a Gentile wrote any part of the Scriptures? Was any member of Jesus' group of disciples a Gentile? Were any of the members of the first Church Gentiles?

            The answer to all of these questions is "No." Are we to conclude by the answer to these questions that the Bible is a Jewish book and has absolutely no relevance to Gentiles whatsoever? I don't think so! Who should determine what part is meant for us and what part belongs to the Jewish people? Let the Scriptures speak for themselves, not J. N. Darby. It is clear from the Scriptures what parts of the Bible belong to whom. The entire Bible belongs to the Church and some are Jews while others are Gentiles, but they are all one in Christ and of no nationality.  I do not see how anyone could honestly declare that Jesus separated His disciples from the Gentile part of His Church in this teaching, when He knew that the two would become one and He did not specifically state His intention in this regard. He knew that He would break down the wall of partition between us and them. Of all the things that Jesus knew, He certainly knew His purpose and His people.

            I might add here that I believe Dispensationalism's improper and anomalous emphasis on Israel has given rise to the Hebrew Roots Movement, also called the Jewish Roots Movement.  Some leading Dispensationalists are also involved in promoting the Jewish Roots Movement.  This Movement denies the finished work of Christ and denigrates the New Testament and its primary author the Apostle Paul.  Although I have affection for Israel, I do not announce to them that they can come to Him and retain the Old Law.  His work was complete and finished the work of the Old Law.  It is my strong opinion that the Jewish Roots Movement and its promoters are adding to the end times deception and apostasy.  

 

Comparison of Matthew Twenty-four with Other Scriptures

            I believe that the Scriptures in 1 Corinthians 15:51-57 fit very well with 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 which, in turn, goes well with the order in 1 Corinthians 15:20-26. We will be raised at His coming, and then comes the end. They also fit with what Jesus said in Matthew twenty-four. In Matthew twenty-four, Jesus had an excellent opportunity to present the pretribulation rapture doctrine, but did not. One cannot just assume without evidence that the Scriptures in Matthew twenty-four are anything other than Scriptures declaring His Second Coming. Is it not strange that the disciples did not ask about a pretribulation rapture, yet dispensationalists declare it to be a valid Bible doctrine? Is it not even stranger that Jesus goes into great detail about the eschatological order in response to the disciple’s question, but never once mentioned a pretribulation rapture? The fourteenth verse gives us a key to understanding Jesus' eschatological order.

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come." (Matt. 24:14 NKJV)  

            Again, we do not see a double Parousia mentioned. He warns them to beware of false Christ's, but who is looking for Christ besides Christians? The Jews are looking for the Messiah, according to their biased interpretation of the Scriptures—so, Jesus would not have been warning the Jews about false Christ's. Besides that, the Jews today will not read the New Testament in which this eschatological teaching is recorded; so, what was the point in Matthew's recording it exclusively for them?

            And why are Christians looking for Christ during the seven-year period? The obvious answer is because they are still here. Let us look at the following comparison of Scriptures. First, there are the Scriptures in Luke seventeen:

"And as it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man: {27} "They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. {28} "Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot : They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; {29} "but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. {30} "Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed." (Lk. 17:26-30 NKJV)

 

            Jesus is talking about His Second Coming here in great detail, yet He leaves out discussing or even mentioning the rapture. Jesus described a time of complete apathy prior to His coming by pointing to two other time periods in history. He declares that last days people will live as the people in these two examples, totally oblivious to His coming. He declares that He will come suddenly in a day when they are not looking for Him and destroy them all. Again, there is no mention of a double coming. It sounds more like the Parousia depicted in second Thessalonians one.

"and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, {8} in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. {9} These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, {10} when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed." (2 Thess. 1:7-10 NKJV)  

            Notice in these Scriptures that there are no double coming references. Also, notice the point of time at which the saints will be given rest. It is at His coming, with fire and destruction (which is God's wrath), just as Matthew twenty-four and Luke seventeen declares. Pretribbers use these verses intermittently for rapture and Parousia scriptures until they are pinned in a corner by such duplicitous maneuvers—at which point they pin the whole affair on the Jews. No one has the authority to force Second Coming scriptures to double as rapture scriptures or whatever is convenient for him or her. We would have to see the two events clearly depicted in one context and labeled respectively in order to say that there are two separate events. Take the example of seeing twins one at a time. You would never know that they were twins unless you saw them together and you would not be able to tell them apart except with name tags.

            Pretribbers declare that there are twin events and they apply the name tags at will with no proof or accountability to the Scriptures. There are no places in God's Word that pretribulation rapture scripture(s) pose together with Second Coming scripture(s) so that a distinction can be made that they are two separate events set apart by a span of time. The only place where we see anything that even comes close to resembling such a situation is when Paul speaks of the Coming of the Lord and our gathering together to Him (rapture), but there is no span of time depicted between these two events.  They are presented as the simultaneous events.

"Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (the second coming of the Lord) and our gathering together to Him, (the rapture) we ask you, {2} not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ (notice "day," singular) had come. {3} Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day (again, "Day" is singular) will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition," (2 Thess. 2:1-3 NKJV)  

            By presenting the two events as simultaneous, these Scriptures give evidence that there is no double Coming of the Lord Jesus. The order that Paul presents declares that the man of sin (Antichrist) will be revealed before the gathering together (rapture) to Him, which effectively ends any notion of a pretribulation rapture. The Antichrist is supposed to be revealed at the beginning of the seven-year period. The rapture in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 occurs after this revealing of the Antichrist.  Thus, no pretribulation rapture is an honest and literal interpretation of these verses in context.  Also consider that the same Paul wrote first Thessalonians.       

 

The Witness of Daniel

            There is also the comparison of Matthew twenty-four with the Book of Daniel. In the Scriptures in Matthew twenty-four where Jesus teaches the Church, He links the New Testament with the Old in this Scripture and others.

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. {30} "Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. {31} "And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." (Matt. 24:29-31 NKJV)            

            Robert Gundry points out that Jesus refers to Daniel 7:13 not only in Matthew 24:30, but also in Matthew 26:64 and Matthew 28:18. This connects the Old Testament, a book written especially to the Jewish people, with the New Testament, a book written specifically to the entire Body of Christ. (1)

"I was watching in the night visions, And behold, One like the Son of Man, Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, And they brought Him near before Him." (Dan. 7:13 NKJV)  

            Jesus describes His return as a descent to the earth. Consider the words of Gundry here:

"Rather, thrones are set, and the Ancient of days sits on one of them. It is hardly probable that a throne for God would be set in heaven, since that is his usual place of abode. Furthermore, according to verse 22 the Ancient of days "came." It is by far most natural, then, to understand that a throne was placed for God in the terrestial sphere and that he came and sat on it." (2)  

            We can conclude that according to Jesus, the witness of Daniel is also important in describing the eschatological sequence of events, and is especially helpful in discovering a pretribulation rapture. A diligent study of Daniel reveals that there is no pretribulation rapture. In fact, the opposite is true. Daniel depicts a posttribulation resurrection.

"At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book. {2} And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt. {3} Those who are wise shall shine Like the brightness of the firmament, And those who turn many to righteousness Like the stars forever and ever." (Dan. 12:1-3 NKJV)  

{8} "Although I heard, I did not understand. Then I said, "My lord, what shall be the end of these things?" {9} And he said, "Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. {10} "Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand." (Dan. 12:8-10 NKJV)  

{13} ""But you, go your way till the end; for you shall rest, and will arise to your inheritance at the end of the days."" (emphasis added) (Dan. 12:13 NKJV)  

            At the time of Daniel's resurrection, we see both the lost and the redeemed coming out of the ground. If the pretribulation resurrection/rapture is only for the saved which is what PTR proponents believe, then someone might declare that this is another rapture that occurs at the end of the seven-year period. However, Daniel only mentions one resurrection, not two, and does not mention a two-phase Second Coming of Christ. It is apparent here and in the rest of the Scriptures that no mention of a double rapture exists. Rather than a double rapture, Revelation depicts an event more like Daniel's resurrection. The dead, the lost, and the saved come out of their resting places and stand before God to receive their reward.

"Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. {12} And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. {13} The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works." (Rev. 20:11-13 NKJV)  

            Since people are judged by both of the books, including the Book of Life in which only the redeemed are recorded (Phil. 4:3; Rev. 3:5, 13:8, 17:8), this means that both the lost and the saved are resurrected here. Of course, this is the Millennium-end judgment, and pertains only to the Millennium. In chapter six, I prove conclusively that an identical judgment occurs at the end of the age, which is the end of the Tribulation. That is the resurrection that Daniel recorded when he received the prophetic information from the angel. To me, this is conclusive evidence that the Pretribulation Rapture position is not a biblically sound position. Paul told Timothy to be careful of his life and doctrine because of the potential to harm souls. We should take heed to this exhortation and make very sure that everything we believe and promote is scripturally correct. We should also be open to change whenever we are corrected.

"Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you." (1 Tim. 4:16 NKJV)


The Witness of Matthew Twenty-five

            The parable of the ten virgins in Matthew twenty-five is also proof against a pretribulation rapture. Although some pretribulationists take great liberties with this parable in order to force it into proof texts for PTR, we will see that this is not possible with literal interpretation.

"Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. {2} "Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. {3} "Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, {4} "but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. {5} "But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept. {6} "And at midnight a cry was heard: 'Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!' {7} "Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. {8} "And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.' {9} "But the wise answered, saying, 'No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.' {10} "And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut. {11} "Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open to us!' {12} "But he answered and said, 'Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.' {13} "Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming." (Matt. 25:1-13 NKJV)


The Tribulation Marriage Supper

            The faulty pretribulation argument that comes from these Scriptures is that we will be raptured, get judged at the Bema seat of Christ, attend the Marriage of the Lamb, and eat the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, all during the seven-year period. Again, there are no Scriptures for this scenario; therefore, it has been presumed and imposed upon the text. Simple inferences in the Bible should not be counted as actual events. Pretribbers attempt to show that the Marriage and Marriage Supper take place during the seven-year period for several reasons. First, they want to prove that there is not enough time for these things to be fulfilled if the rapture is posttrib. Secondly, they need proof that the rapture is pretrib. By placing the Marriage and Marriage Supper during the seven-year period, they can declare that the Church has already been raptured before the seven-year period. 

            I disagree with the idea that the Marriage Supper will be eaten during the seven-year period for several reasons. First of all, the Bride is not yet complete, and will not be until the end of the Tribulation. There are martyred saints throughout the final half of the tribulation, which indicates that the Bride is not complete until the end. These martyred saints are given honored status, as is evidenced by Revelation twenty.  It is unnatural that Jesus would be orchestrating a devastating series of calamities on the earth while eating supper with only part of His Bride or Church. Does this mean that as believers are martyred, they go straight to their seat at the table? Where is the completing of the Bride that must take place before the Marriage Supper?

"And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. {5} But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. {6} Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years." (Rev. 20:4-6 NKJV)  

            It is difficult to insist that these people who are blessed and holy are not a part of the Marriage or the Marriage Supper. As long as they are on the earth, there cannot be a Marriage or a Marriage Supper. Jesus reveals when the Marriage will take place.

"And at midnight a cry was heard: 'Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!' {7} "Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. {8} "And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.' {9} "But the wise answered, saying, 'No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.' {10} "And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut." (Matt. 25:6-10 NKJV)  

            There is no doubt that the Marriage is after Jesus comes. Also, this Scripture does not mean that there is a pretribulation rapture, as is evidenced by the following Scriptures in the same chapter.

"When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. {32} "All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats." (Matt. 25:31-32 NKJV)  

            The second reason that I disagree that the Marriage Supper occurs during the Tribulation is for the same reason that pretribbers disagree with the posttribulation rapture—because there is not enough time. If we are to take the mention of an event in the Scripture to be the actual time of the occurrence, then read where the Marriage Supper is mentioned. It is mentioned right before the Second Advent.

"Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready." {8} And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. {9} Then he said to me, "Write: 'Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!' " And he said to me, "These are the true sayings of God." {10} And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." {11} Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war." (Rev 19:7-11 NKJV)  

            It is clear to me from these Scriptures that the voices and the angel are simply announcing that the Marriage and the Marriage Supper are about to happen, but not that they are occurring at that very moment. What cued them to make that announcement? They most likely realized that Jesus was getting ready to descend to the earth for the final battle and bring back His Bride. They knew that these events would take place after the final battle. Jehoakim Jeremias gave some insight into the parable of the ten virgins in his book, The Parables of Jesus. (3) First, he discusses the delay of the Parousia.

"The common element of suddenness is a figure of the unexpected incidence of catastrophe. The crisis is at the door. It will come unexpectedly as the midnight cry in the parable, 'Behold, the bridegroom cometh!' And it brings the inexorable severance, even where mortal eyes see no distinction (cf. Mt. Xxiv , 40f.; Lk.xvii, 34f.). Woe to those whom that final hour finds unprepared! Hence it was a cry of warning in view of the imminent eschatological crisis that Jesus uttered the parable, and as such his audience understood it." (4)  

            We can gather by this opinion that it was not a parable about the rapture followed by the Tribulation, but about the Second Coming followed by the judgment. Concerning the wedding itself, Jeremias writes:

"The wedding ceremony usually took place in the bridegroom's house; it began with the fetching of the bride by the bridegroom and his friends. The virgins are the bride's companions, who await the arrival of the bridgegroom, that they may take him in to their friend, and then proceed with the bridal pair to the bridegroom's house." (5)  

            The wedding feast takes place before the Marriage. This being the case, we should consider the Scriptures that depict the wedding feast, or Marriage Supper, taking place on this earth. The Marriage itself is the union of Christ with all His people, both Old Testament and New Testament believers. I believe that the Bride cannot be complete until all the people of God have left the earth. Only at the end of the seven-year period, when all the saints are gathered to Christ, can any sort of complete union be possible.

Isaiah 24
23 Then the moon shall be confounded and the sun ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in
mount Zion , and in Jerusalem , and before his ancients gloriously.
25:6 And in this mountain shall the Lord of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wine on the lees well refined.
7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the veil that is spread over all nations.
8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the LORD God shall wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the Lord hath spoken it.

Luke 22
16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the
kingdom of God .
18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the
kingdom of God shall come.  

            When the point that the marriage supper takes place on the Lord’s mountain is combined with the fact that there are no Scriptures depicting a Marriage or a Marriage Supper during the Tribulation, there is convincing proof that these two events do not occur during the Tribulation. This eliminates another argument that pretribbers present against Post-tribulation Rapture.

            Anthony Hoekema states that the Marriage Supper will take place on the earth. First, he explains the meaning of the Greek prepositional phrase, eis apantsin.

"Apantsis is a technical term used in the new testament times to describe a public welcome given by a city to a visiting dignitary. People would ordinarily leave the city to meet the distinguished visitor and then go back with him into the city.(6) On the basis of the analogy conveyed by this word, all Paul is saying here (1 Thessaloniasn 4:16-17) is that raised and transformed believers are caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord as he descends from heaven, implying that after this joyful meeting they will go back with him to the earth." (7) (Parenthesis added)  

Hoekema uses the illustration in Acts 28:15.

"And from there, when the brethren heard about us, they came to meet us (eis apantsin hmin) as far as Appii Forum and Three Inns. When Paul saw them, he thanked God and took courage." (Acts 28:15 NKJV) (The fellow believers came out to meet Paul and then went back with him into the city.)  

            The part that pertains to the subject at hand is when Hoekema points to the use of apantsin in the parable of the Ten Virgins. Consider the following:

"The other use of the word is found in Matthew 25:6, in the Parable of the Wise and Foolish virgins: 'But at midnight there was a cry, "Behold, the bridegroom! Come out to meet him (eis apantsin)".' As the wise virgins in the parable went out to meet the bridegroom, so believers will be caught up to meet the descending Lord. As the virgins thereafter went along with the bridegroom on his way to the marriage feast, so raised and transformed believers, after meeting the Lord in the air, will remain with the Lord as he continues on his way to the earth. The figure of the marriage feast implies happy, loving fellowship. Why should it be assumed that this fellowship can only take place in heaven? Resurrected and glorified bodies of believers do not belong in heaven but on the earth. It is therefore not in heaven but on the new earth that the marriage feast of Christ and his redeemed people will be held." (8)

 

The Witness of Paul

            The apostle Paul gives some of the most conclusive Scriptures against the pretribulation rapture. Consider the conclusive declaration of 2 Thessalonians about the order of eschatological events.

"Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, {2} not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. {3} Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, {4} who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God." (2 Thess. 2:1-4 NKJV) (emphasis added)  

            Although these Scriptures are absolute evidence against PTR, pretribulationists insert words between these words of Paul, and even change the order around to fit their doctrine. Although I cover this in greater detail in another chapter, I believe that it is worth mentioning here as well. Here is the way Dr. Tim LaHaye deals with this passage. Notice that LaHaye goes on to intersperse Darbyism throughout the text.

"The whole subject is referred to in the first verse as 'the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.' Then Paul uses a conjunction, usually translated "and" but also rendered "even." In either case, he refers to 'our gathering unto Him.' The Second Coming refers to the two phases separated by seven years. Our "gathering together to Him" cannot mean the Glorious Appearing, since that is when all living creatures are congregated for the judgment of the nations and the establishment of Christ's kingdom. The "gathering together to Him" refers to the Rapture, the event when He welcomes His church to be with Him. Thus in verse 1 we find both the Glorious Appearing and the "gathering together unto Him."  Paul then follows with one of the most detailed descriptions in the New Testament of the Antichrist's activities, which he places between these two distinct events. Just as John locates the Antichrist's coming before the Glorious Appearing in the Book of Revelation, so Paul in this passage does the same. "The day of Christ" is the public appearance of Christ to the earth, which will not take place until the man of sin, the son of perdition, that lawless one will be destroyed by the Lord, "at the brightness of His coming" -- the Glorious Appearing." (9) (emphasis mine)  

            Paul does not mention a two-phase Second Coming separated by seven years in any of his writings. In fact, there is no such thing anywhere in the Bible. He also does not place the activities of the Antichrist between the two events glorious appearing and gathering together to Him. This is emphatically clear and it does not take an accredited theologian to see this point. What Paul does teach is that the glorious appearing (Parousia) and our gathering together to Him (episunagoge) are simultaneous events which occur on the Day of Christ.  Episunagoge is an important word here, because its meaning implies that this gathering together to Him is the final gathering of God's people, not a pretribulation Gentiles-only secret rapture.

"episunagoge, ep-ee-soon-ag-o-gay'; 1997 in the Strong's Greek Dictionary; from G1996; a complete collection; spec. a Chr. meeting (for worship):--assembling (gathering) together."  

            Notice that it says that this event is a complete collection, which differs with the PTR belief that it is a partial collection of God's people. There are more people entering Heaven during the Tribulation as saints are martyred for their loyalty to Christ. Therefore, it is not feasible to declare that this is a pretribulation rapture that Paul is writing about here. H. A. A. Kennedy points out that there is a parallelism between the words of the Apostle Paul and many passages in the Synoptic Gospels.

" St Paul warns his friends against the panic which had seized them as to the immediate approach of the Parousia, and points out certain conditions which he believes must be fulfilled, ere this tremendous crisis can break in upon the present order." (10) (emphasis added)  

            The phrase certain conditions imply that the idea of imminency is not a New Testament doctrine. The believers in Thessalonica were worried about imminency, but Paul assured them that there are certain conditions that have to be met before the Lord's coming. Mark writes that the same sort of instructions came during Jesus' teaching.

"But when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be troubled; for such things must happen, but the end is not yet. {8} "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles. These are the beginnings of sorrows." (Mk. 13:7-8 NKJV)  

            This seems to connect the passage in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 with the teachings of Jesus on eschatological events in the Synoptic Gospels.


Is the Holy Spirit Removed from the Earth?

            Paul also taught that the restrainer would be moved out of the way in order that the man of sin would be revealed.  Pretribulationists take this to mean that the rapture takes place before the Antichrist is revealed. They reason that if the Holy Spirit is removed from the earth, the Church could not possibly remain here. Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit, who is the Comforter, would remain with us forever.

"And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever;" (John 14:16 NKJV)  

            Pretribulationists forget that the Holy Spirit is a member of the Godhead, and is therefore infallible, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. How can He be removed from any place if He is everywhere? And where would He be removed to? It is obvious that He is not removed from the earth, but that He quits restraining. Some have declared that this Scripture may not even refer to the Holy Spirit, but to the archangel Michael. I have not studied this out for myself, but I would advise everyone else to do so thoroughly before accepting this claim. There will be saved people, or people saved (whichever way you want to believe it), during the Tribulation Period.

(Rev 6:9-11 NKJV) " When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. {10} And they cried with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" {11} Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed."  

            These people who are under the altar are evidently saved, or they would not be in Heaven. They were killed because of the Word of God and their testimony.   Anyone who would die rather than forsake or deny Christ is certainly qualified to leave earth in a pretribulation rapture, if there were such a thing.  Yet, here they are being martyred for the name of Christ.

"After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, {10} and crying out with a loud voice, saying, 'Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!' {11} All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, {12} saying: 'Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, Thanksgiving and honor and power and might, Be to our God forever and ever. Amen.' {13} Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, 'Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?' {14} And I said to him, 'Sir, you know.' So he said to me, 'These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.'" (Rev. 7:9-14 NKJV)  

"And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death." (Rev. 12:11 NKJV)

Since these are saved people, the Holy Spirit is on the earth. If they were saved during the Tribulation, then the Holy Spirit had to be involved. If they were saved before the Tribulation, then the Holy Spirit never left the earth.

"teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. Amen." (Matt. 28:20 NKJV)

 

The Bema Seat of Christ

            The final witness of Paul is to debunk the idea that millions of people must be judged during the seven-year period at the Bema seat of Christ, which would take some time. Along with the Marriage, the Marriage Supper, and the Bema Seat Judgment, PTR proponents argue that there is not enough time to complete all of these things after a posttribulation rapture. Since we have eliminated the Marriage and Marriage Supper during the seven-year period, we posttribbers get more time.  As a result, our credibility is growing by the moment. Well, we’re going to get even more time as we take a look at the so-called Bema Seat Judgment.

            First, we need to discover if there is a Bema Seat Judgment during the seven-year period. When we set out to discover the Bema Seat Judgment during the seven-year period, we find that there is not one scripture that supports such a notion. I did not believe that we would find it there because of the reasons that we gave for the refutation of a seven-year period Marriage and Marriage Supper. All of the people of God, not just some, would have to be there if there is going to be a judgment. There are still believers on earth, as we have already pointed out. If pretribbers are going to have a Bema Seat Judgment, get married, and then eat, some will be eating while others are being judged and still others are getting married. That is not a nice thing to do to your bride and I do not believe that Jesus is going to do such a thing to His Church. 

            Where did the doctrine of a Bema Seat Judgment come from anyway? We cannot find the word Bema any where in the Bible (these non-biblical words just keep popping up). There is one scripture in Romans fourteen and another in 2 Corinthians five where Paul refers to a judgment seat. Other than these two, I can find no other reference to the judgment seat of Christ.

"But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. {11} For it is written: 'As I live, says the LORD, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.'" ( Rom. 14:10-11 NKJV)

"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad." (2 Cor. 5:10 NKJV)  

Here is this article from Holman's Bible Dictionary.

New Testament Development

" The New Testament builds on the foundation of the Old Testament and utilizes the language and imagery of the Jewish writings to present the full revelational picture of Judgment Day. As in the Old Testament, divine judgment is both a present and a future reality. Jesus' first coming represents a divine judgment (John 3:19 ; 9:39 ; 12:31 ). Sinful humanity presently stands under divine condemnation (John 3:36 ) and experiences in part now the wrath of God (Rom. 1:18 -32). The people of God are chastised for their waywardness (Heb. 12:4-11; Prov. 3:11 -12), but that final divine verdict of judgment is yet to be carried out in a future day (1 John 4:17 ; John 5:24 -29) by the Son of Man Himself (John 12:48 ; 5:22 ). Thus human activity in this life basically determines the verdict rendered in this future judgment. In the great white throne judgment scene (Rev. 20:11-15), the basis of judgment is first from the book of life (vv. 12a,15) and then from the books of works (vv. 12b-14). One's relationship with Christ is that determiner of eternal destiny (John 3:36 ), but one's faithfulness to Christ is crucial to a genuine relationship with Christ (Jas. 2:14-26; Matt. 7:21-23; 1 John 2:3-6). Very similar in emphasis is the parable of the sheep and goats (Matt. 25:31-56). Pious deeds of devotion done to those in need stands as the distinguishing criterion between the sheep and the goats and settles their eternal destiny (v. 46). Paul's discussion in Romans 2:1-16 underscores that demand for obedient commitment to Christ as well. The concept of retribution for good and bad is also applied to believers (1 Cor. 3:12 -15; 2 Cor. 5:10 ), but the specifics of rewards and punishments are not stated. However, the New Testament is absolutely clear in declaring the certainty of Judgment Day from which no one will escape (Acts 17:30-31). Thus comes the apostolic call to repentance and faith." (11)  

            It is apparent that what pretribbers call the Bema Seat Judgment is none other than the judgment of all souls that Christ will perform after His Second Coming and conclusive victory over Satan. This is indicated in the first two Scriptures that I posted from Romans fourteen. In the eleventh verse, Paul quotes from Isaiah 45:23. Here is that scripture in context:

"Assemble yourselves and come; Draw near together, You who have escaped from the nations. They have no knowledge, Who carry the wood of their carved image, And pray to a god that cannot save. {21} Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this from ancient time? Who has told it from that time? Have not I, the LORD? And there is no other God besides Me, A just God and a Savior; There is none besides Me. {22} "Look to Me, and be saved, All you ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other. {23} I have sworn by Myself; The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, And shall not return, That to Me every knee shall bow, Every tongue shall take an oath. {24} He shall say, 'Surely in the LORD I have righteousness and strength. To Him men shall come, And all shall be ashamed Who are incensed against Him. {25} In the LORD all the descendants of Israel Shall be justified, and shall glory.'" (Isa. 45:20-25 NKJV)  

            Paul simply refers to the last day judgment as the judgment seat of Christ. There is no special Bema Seat Judgment by Christ of only His people, especially of "raptured only" people during the Tribulation. Why did Paul not use the title God instead of Christ? To the Apostle Paul, Christ and God were one in the Godhead, and he had no intention of presenting a doctrine of a saints- only judgment before Christ. This is further proof that the timing arguments that pretribbers use are baseless straw formed by men for the sole purpose of defending an indefensible doctrine called pretribulation rapture. They are going to have to come up with something that they can defend with the Word of God rather than more uncorroborated frivolities.

            There are more arguments from the PTR camp that I look forward to refuting in the coming chapters. I have not seen a good defense, or a Biblical argument, postulated by pretribbers to date. All the efforts of leading pretribbers appear to be nothing more than sad, deluded attempts to save a dying doctrine that is on fictional life support and is barely hanging on. Technology and the recent phenomena of quick access to information have finally provided people with the tools to expose false doctrines that have been plaguing the Church for many years now.

            I thank God that many people are not letting themselves become mindless zombies that sit in Church pews and feast on someone else's knowledge, but are studying the Bible and Church history for themselves. The result is that many are beginning to understand how important it is to check out everything with the Word of God. PTR was taken at face value when it arrived. The problem was that it was a counterfeit and was not worth the paper it was written on. One man lead astray, J. N Darby, influenced another man, C. I. Scofield, and millions have believed in a lie for almost two hundred years as a result. It is time to set the record straight.

            In conclusion, I can only shake my head in amazement that so many professing Christians have fallen for and are still clinging to such an aberrant doctrine that will adversely affect the Church and could doom multitudes to hell.

 

1. Robert Horton Gundry, The Use of the Old Testament in St. Matthews Gospel, (Leiden) E. J. Berrill, 1967, pp. 231-233

2. Ibid, pg. 233

3. Joachim Jeremias, The Parables of Jesus, Charles Scribner's Sons, New York , 1955

4. Ibid, pg. 42

5. Ibid, pg. 132

6. E. Peterson, "apantsis," TDNT, I, 380-81

7. Anthony A. Hoekema, The Bible and the Future, William B, Erdman's Publishing Co., Grand Rapids, Mich. 1799, pg. 168

8. Ibid, pp 168-169

9. Ibid, pg. 79, ch. 2

10. H. A. A. Kennedy, St. Pauls Conception of Last Things, Hodder and Stroughton, London 27, Paternoster Row, 1904, pg. 166

11. Lorin L. Cranford , Judgement, Holman bible Dictionary  

 

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