Cedric Fisher: "earnestly contending for the faith."

Hebrew Roots Debate

Hebrew Roots Debate

I am presently involved in a debate with proponents of the Hebrew Roots Movement on Stand Up For the Truth.  So far it has been an interesting debate without any of the usual ad hominem I have come to expect from HRM proponents.  The debate provides an interesting insight into this heretical movement, especially regarding their hermeneutics and soteriology.  One glaring flaw in their hermeneutics is common to all cults, and that is to consistently remove verses and even sentences from context and form an opinion around them.  It is obvious that when they study the Scriptures, they are not searching for truth, but for support for their doctrine.  That is evidence of loving doctrine more than truth.

The defense of their doctrine involves a complete revision of the New Testament.  Each of the verses against their doctrine (and the New Testament is replete with them) is separated, dissected, added to, and forced to say the opposite of what it actually says.  They will borrow verses that were written under the Mosaic Law and use them in an attempt to validate their insistence that Christians remain under that Law.  They appear incapable of understanding the Atonement or the advent of the Holy Spirit.  Without any scriptural authority, they split the Mosaic Law into two sections, the rules and regulations and the sacrificial system.  From that flawed premise, they insist that Christ only fulfilled and thus ended the sacrificial system, but not the rules and regulations.

Eventually, they will bring in Hebrew tradition and try to shift the debate to a wrangling over the meaning of Hebrew and Greek words.  They know full well that most everyone has access to a concordance, but not everyone has studied Hebrew and/or Greek.  Thus, if they can push the debate into the shadows of those languages, they can cloud the main topic.  Further, it’s a fact that some people are easily impressed when Hebrew and Greek terms are being tossed about.

The fact remains that God gave us a Bible that contains a Gospel and complete picture of His Savior Christ Jesus with the plan of salvation.  It is the simplicity of the Gospel that is so compelling.  The HRM wishes to complicate the matter, insisting that salvation is not complete without the Mosaic Law.  Somehow that flawed theory resonates with some people.  However, millions of people are involved in cults and false religions that contain more rules than the Mosaic Law.  It has long been my belief that the carnal mind will tolerate anything but full surrender to God and His Holy Spirit.  When full surrender occurs, the carnal mind has to die.  Once crucified with Christ, the ML no longer has authority over such a one.  The higher and great law of that the Holy Spirit imparts will dwell in everyone who has fully committed to God through Christ Jesus.

The HRM presents a dangerous doctrine that rejects the Atonement.  No matter how much they declare that they have accepted Christ Jesus, they have in fact (as evidenced by their doctrine) accepted another Christ and another gospel.  That is why I decided to spend the time refuting their doctrine.

Hebrew Roots Debate

4 Comments

  1. Melody Luecke

    Several yrs ago now I was introduced to the Pauline dispensation thru a Bible Overview titled: The Plot written by Bob Enyart. I’m a critical thinker and don’t agree with all his statements but in general the Study is Excellent and really has helped me in understanding the Differences between Israel and their Kingdom Gospel that was attached so to speak to the Mosaic Law and the Gospel of Grace that was later Revealed to Apostle Paul. The Gospel of Grace preached and those that believe form the body of Christ where Christ sits as Head. Here in lies the distinction of Law and Grace. You did an excellent Job explaining the Law of Christ in the believer. I don’t believe we have all the New Covenant benefits as of yet, but will when Christ Returns and sets up his Kingdom after the tribulation period, the time of Jacobs trouble when Israel the nation will then recognize her Savior.

  2. Theodore A. Jones

    “For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.” Rom. 2:13 NIV
    That law Paul references is not the Sinai code, but an indivivual must have the faith to obey it or not be declared righteous by God.

    • Mary Hamlin

      Roman 10:9 – 13

  3. ken hall

    Melody Luecke on September 18, 2015 at 2:23 am said:

    Several yrs ago now I was introduced to the Pauline dispensation thru a Bible Overview titled: The Plot written by Bob Enyart. I’m a critical thinker and don’t agree with all his statements but in general the Study is Excellent and really has helped me in understanding the Differences between Israel and their Kingdom Gospel that was attached so to speak to the Mosaic Law and the Gospel of Grace that was later Revealed to Apostle Paul. The Gospel of Grace preached and those that believe form the body of Christ where Christ sits as Head. Here in lies the distinction of Law and Grace. You did an excellent Job explaining the Law of Christ in the believer. I don’t believe we have all the New Covenant benefits as of yet, but will when Christ Returns and sets up his Kingdom after the tribulation period, the time of Jacobs trouble when Israel the nation will then recognize her Savior.

    I believe you are right, Melody! I too have studied Pauline theology and It has added greatly to my Bible knowledge. This is very “deep” part of understanding God’s Word and for a very critical thinker. I studied it for 6-8 months and then the Holy Spirit brought me sort of back to the middle ground. I do not subscribe to Pauline dispensationalism in every respect, but the study of it was truly an “eye-opener” for me. That knowledge is now implanted deeply in my theology and invaluable, a “pearl of great price”.

    As for the HR heresy, I personally do not have much experience with it, thank God. I believe it is just one of the many forms of the great apostasy that is now “fully-bloomed’ in the world. Unless one is deeply rooted in the Word and walking in humble obedience to God and His commands, they probably will be deceived by one or another of these heresies. Amen?

    Again, C.H., thanks for what you do for those who “have ears to hear what the Spirit saith”. Your commentaries greatly encourage me. I am in transition right now(moving to Indiana to be closer to the grandkids) but if the Lord tarries I will be back on the front lines in a couple of months from now. I am planning to start a blog and try to comment on current events as God wills. Our job is “to plant” the Good Seed and as Jude said; contend for the faith. If we have the gift, we must use it or be held accountable in the judgment. I pray that I will get bolder as the days get darker….ken hall

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